Chicken hawk databaseThat's right these are members of the baby boomer generation, the hippie generation. They wore flowers in their hair and talked of peace between countries.
That was until they past the age of possibly being drafted. Now they are hawks who chant now is "All we are saying is give war a chance!" .
Now they want countries in pieces.
Radio personality Rush Limbaugh has suggested first invading Iran, then Iraq.(1)
Rush Limbaugh never served in the armed forces he received a deferment.(2)
Phil Gramm, "The suggestion that an Iraqi threat had ''suddenly been created out of whole cloth as we face the election simply will not bear up to scrutiny,'' .(3)
Phil was a no show for the military during Vietnam he also received a deferment.(4)
Newt Gingrich also seems extremely hawkish "If he refuses at some point, the President has made clear the United States will use whatever level of force is necessary in order to eliminate the sites that we believe currently are being used to build biological and chemical weapons."(5)
Steve Forbes also support war when he doesn't have to go. He got a Vietnam era deferment.(6)
Steve Forbes sez war will be good or the stock market!(7)
Dan Quayle and Newt Gingrich reached a consensus that Iraq should be targeted quickly after Afghanistan. (8)
Dan never saw combat as many of his peers did. As Bush's vice president, Dan Quayle attracted criticism for, among other things, his enlistment in the 1960s in the Indiana National Guard, which meant that he was not sent overseas during the Vietnam War.(9)
How did the vote on possible force on Iraq go? "All but six Republicans in the House and one in the Senate - Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island - backed the president, but Democrats were far more divided, with many voting for the resolution only after more restrictive alternatives were voted down.(10)
"Newt Gingrich, Phil Gramm, Steve Forbes, Jack Kemp, Pat Buchanan, and Rush Limbaugh all received deferments in the Vietnam era. I'm beginning to believe that the Dole-Kemp motto "15 percent" refers to the number of Republicans who actually served in the military."(11)
As reported by the Boston Globe and AP on 10/11/2002.The House of Representatives voted 296 to 133 to allow Bush use military force in Iraq.
Yes were, 81 Democrats and 215 Republicans
Voting no were 126 Democrats, six Republicans,
In the Senate
Voting "yes" were 29 Democrats and 48 Republicans.
Voting "no" were 21 Democrats, one Republican and one independent.
NEWT GINGRICH"But why should somebody who makes their living by being a hero to young people get away with using drugs? And once they are proven they use drugs, why shouldn't they have an obligation to turn the drug dealer? They know somebody who is committing a felony."(12)
Newt admitted to past drug use.(13) Did he turn in all of his former connections? You have to wonder if he was high when he became a drug warrior extraordinaire.
These are Kings of what an "ex hippie" should be
Bill Clinton, use cannabis(14). and also avoided the draft.(15)
His drug war was just as brutal(16) He also increased defense spending (1st time in 10 years) to support his military operations overseas for places like Bosnia and Iraq.(17)
President GW Bush has admitted to "youthful indiscretions". such as cocaine use.(18) His drug war is just as brutal if not more brutal than Clintons.(19)
President GW Bush served in the Texas Air National Guard, thus avoiding Vietnam. His VP Dick Cheny avoided military service with deferments as a student and expectant father.(20) Now Dubya is foaming at the mouth at the prospect of war.(21)
One General wondered about Bush's pro war rhetoric "why all the generals see it the same way and all those that never fired a shot in anger are really hell-bent to go to war?" Former Gen. Anthony Zinni, Mr. Bush' s envoy to the Middle East,(21a)
Opponents of chicken hawk wars.
Some who served active duty said no to a blank check war and the possible occupation of Iraq.
These are members of both houses of congress who voted no on President bushes requests to war with Iraq. Others did vote, but these people know first hand the hardships of active duty military
The following information was gotten from a Boston Globe report (10/11/2002 ) of the vote the Congressional home pages. Some of this information was sketchy, others may have served and not mentioned it. Click on their name to see if they had comments on the Iraq war.
Senate
Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) Army 1951-53 Pfc
Daniel K. Akaka(D-Hawaii) Army
Dan Inouye (D-Hawaii) U.S. Army
Jack Reed (D-RI) , an Army
Jim Jeffords (I-Vermont) U.S. Navy
House
Vic Snyder (D-Ark) United States Marine Corps.
Joe Baca (D- Cali )U.S. Army
Pete Stark (D- California) U.S. Air Force.
Mike Thompson (D-California) U.S. Army
Lane Evans (D-Illinois)U.S. Marine Corps
Bobby L. Rush (D-ILLINOIS) United States Army
David E. Bonior (D-MICHIGAN) joined the Air Force (lost his relection bid)
MAURICE D. HINCHEY (D New York) US Navy
JOHN J. LaFALCE, (D New York) United States Army. Was not reelected
(D New York) U.S. Army.
José E. Serrano (D-NY), he served in the Army
William J. Coyne (D-Penn ) U.S. Army from.
Silvestre Reyes (Texas -D) served in Vietnam
(WA-D) Military service
In the true spirit of ex hippiedom, and following one of their creeds here is a Chicken Hawk page.
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There is a move a foot that could negatively affect 600,000 disabled Veterans of military service.(22)
The Bush administration is in a debate over veteran's benefits. The Senate wants to give disabled veterans full benefits; this is projected top cost 58 billion dollars. The White House claims this is too expensive. Other Bush allies claim this will allow disabled veterans to "double dip" (collect two retirements).(23)
It appears that the Bush administration is attempting to delay action on this until after the Nov 5 2002 elections. After a meeting with the White House, Ronald Conley, national commander of the American Legion said "It's going to be a political issue in the election if they do not act upon this,"(24)
Rep. Ronnie Shows (D-Miss.) referencing possibly sending troops to Iraq said, "How can we expect to recruit troops for the conflict we are about to wage if we continue the cycle of broken promises?"(25)
Speaking on a possible presidential veto of the senate measure, Harry Reid (D- Nevada) said "Let everyone here in the Senate decide who they want to support: the president's people or the veterans of their states." (26) Reid also said about asking service personnel to go fight "we must send a signal to these brave men and women that the American people and government take care of those who make sacrifices for the nation.". Mr Reid was confident that they could override a presidential veto.(27)
Ronald F. Conley national commander of the American Legion's( American Legion has 2.8 million members ) said in a letter to Bush, it would be "height of hypocrisy" to postpone a decision until after the election and then "let it die quietly."(28)
Conley, also said "It would send the wrong message to today's troops, whom the president will order to fight for freedom in Iraq, to continue to rob disabled military retirees of their full and justly earned benefits,"(29)
Sen. Byron Dorgan, (D-N.D.), said the United States should keeps its promise to Veterans. Byron said "One of those promises is to say that if you earn a retirement we will pay you that retirement," He continued "If you are disabled because of your service to our country, you are entitled to that disability payment. It's just that simple."(30)
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